Jesus Camp
Cameron mentioned this movie, Jesus Camp, in his comment. Haven't seen it yet but it looks very interesting. I was out of town when it came here but the uni library has ordered the DVD. (Assuming I don't just buy it.)
I like the comment at the beginning, "There's two kinds of people in the world: people who love Jesus and people who don't." It's just so true. I really like dichotomies so I'll have to add it to my list along with "You either love liquorice or you hate it." I just wonder whether she realises that Muslims also love Jesus (as a prophet, they just don't think he was the son of God).
Update - 30th January
There's another doco coming out on HBO soon, called "Friends of God". There's another clip from the doco available here featuring the Australian Creationist Ken Ham, one of the most famous Young Earth Creationists around today. (His creationist propaganda centre in Queensland shut up shop around the time of Sir Joh's fall from grace. Ham then headed to the greener pastures of Kentucky where he is currently building a Creation Museum. N.B. Unlike those other Young Earth Creationists, he doesn't call it "Creation Science", which is far more honest.)
Even better, another clip featuring Ted Haggard, claiming that Evangelical Christians have more sex than anyone else. He sounded like he was talking about men having sex with their wives but, as we now know, what he really meant was married men having sex with male prostitutes while snorting meth.
posted by Nick @ 9:54 am
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There are also a lot of secualrists who have respect for "the word of Jesus" who think the whole "son of God" claim was a bit much.
Vonnegut is one of these, honourary head of the American Humanists Association. Indeed few ought to argue with the sermon on the mount. He'd prolly have been a great fellow to have some wine with, until he starts going on about his father.
Let's not forget Thomas Jefferson, who excerpted the good bits of the Gospels and left out all the God stuff, called it The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth. Didn't get published until 1895, though.
There are two kinds of people in the world: those who divide people up into two kinds and those who don't.
Or, there are 10 kinds of people in the world: those who understand binary notation and those who don't.
Cute little girls can't be Christians without being brainwashed? No! Christians are ugly, stupid people. Especially if they're the type of Christians who go around talking about it.
Depends how little they are. If they're less than about 10 years old then I would say that they can't really make up their own mind and should not even be labelled as Christians. Yes, I'm with Dawkins and Harris all the way on this one - it's a terrible thing to indoctrinate children without giving them a real choice. (Even when I was a Christian I didn't believe that infant baptism was a good idea.) Of course I'd have to admit that it's brainwashing in a weak sense, where the brainwashers believe it themselves.
As for the possibility that Cam meant girls in their late teens, a whole different sort of cute, I can't image that Christians would be doing that deliberately. Not after what I've heard from Lara about UNSW's Campus Bible Study and their lessons in dressing frumpy. "You wouldn't want to cause some man to sin in his heart would you? That would be as bad as actual adultery!"
I am a Christian and I don't think infant baptism is a good idea... but that's because I'm not convinced it's biblical.
This comment is going to get too long, so I'll put my thoughts on brainwashing over on my blog.
Dressing frumpy?
As in, dress modestly?
Well, that answers any question put forth on why Islam has inherent dress restrictions, dunnit. S'all one and the same. Its just one society (if not the holy book itself) took the concept a little further.
Counter arguments, anyone?
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